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maht 6 points 6 hours ago* [-]

All day every day. There are about 30-50 regular contributors to the Plan 9 mailing list. And about 100 in the irc channel (mostly lurkers weirdly).

There's a group of maybe 20 of us that have been users for 10+ years.

We have enough people now for a yearly Plan9 users conference, last year it was in Greece Murray Hill NJ before that, Madrid before that.

EDIT : s/been around users/been users/

chneukirchen 4 points 6 hours ago[-]

I try it sometimes, but it's too mouse centric for me somehow...

chneukirchen 1 point 4 hours ago[-]

Actually, what I'd rather love to see is an console-based sam (think ed : vi :: sam : ???).

uriel 3 points 3 hours ago* [-]

There is sam -d, but I doubt that is what you have in mind ;)

Unless you are ken or some other beyond-human entity, I'd stick to the graphical version.

jessta 2 points 2 hours ago[-]

I've tried to use it a few times, but it always seems really slow to use to me, the lack of keyboard shortcuts and the constant moving between the keyboard and mouse seems really slow.

I'm pretty sure I'm doing it wrong because I can't imagine someone wanting to use it the way I've been using, but I've never watched someone use it properly or read anything about how best to use it.

gcapell 2 points 2 hours ago[-]

I live in ACME (on Linux).

adoarns 5 points 7 hours ago[-]

I did run Plan9 for a little while, and Acme was great in that environment; but in Linux/Unix it doesn't work as well.

maht 3 points 6 hours ago[-]

skymt0 4 points 3 hours ago[-]

Acme works well with a Plan9 environment, but not so well with a Unix environment. Porting the Plan9 environment to Unix doesn't change that.

anothy 3 points 1 hour ago[-]

what is it you find doesn't work so well? i've used acme on various types of unix since p9p came out, and also acme-sac for a long time on OS X, and have found it to work very well. the two big things i've found occasionally irritating are spaces in file names (thankfully uncommon on unix) and the bazillion .files stupid unix apps litter in your home directory. other than that, it's a very comfortable environment, and acme's great features are more than enough to make it my prefered editor on any platform. the only thing i'd really like to see from elsewhere is something equivalent to sam's -r option.

anothy 1 point 1 hour ago[-]

very yes. i spend most of my professional days swapping beteen acme on Plan 9 and acme on OS X. i read most of my mail in there and do editing both locally and on remote OS X, Plan 9, and Linux boxes. mostly english text, C code, rc and sh shell scripts, a little limbo (wish it were more), and when i havee to read somebody else's perl or php. acme-sac is probably the easiest way to get started, but i wish the connection to the underlying file system was more obvious. Plan 9 from User Space doesn't have that particular problem, but is a bitg more of an "advanced" environment to set up.

maximelt 3 points 7 hours ago[-]

This interests me but neither Acme-Sac (http://code.google.com/p/acme-sac/) nor Wiley (http://www.cse.yorku.ca/~oz/wily/) seemed to be very usable.

anothy 1 point 1 hour ago[-]

how so? i wasn't a big wily fan, but acme-sac is great when i can't be on Plan 9 (or 9vx).

maht 1 point 6 hours ago* [-]

Not everyone can drive a Formual 1 car.

On Lunix try http://swtch.com/plan9port/

Or there's http://swtch.com/9vx/

SwellJoe 1 point 1 hour ago[-]

Lunix?